For the last few days, I've been seeing some rumors about this situation in England where hackers broke into a climate change institute and found that scientists have been rigging the numbers. Well, it looks like the story is true: ["Hackers leak e-mails, stoke climate debate"].
Like a lot of things, this stuff has been on my mind. I think about energy and the conservation issue every time I get in the car and drive 63 miles one way to my job.
But, another reason that this has been on my mind is this video, by two EPA officials telling people that cap and trade won't work:
Their experiences come from working in California, which apparently has an extensive cap and trade program in existence. The rumor going around the United States is that these two officials were told to edit parts of the video, because the Obama Administration and Congressional Democrats already have cap and trade legislation in place, whether it will work or not.
For years, I have suspected that cap and trade wouldn't work. It's the same reason that corporate welfare and subsidies don't work. It's one of the reasons Kyoto wouldn't work either.
Ideally, society needs to make the leap from point A to point S or T, and not B, technology-wise, and that just isn't happening and won't happen with massive amounts of investments from the taxpayers. We're simply, as a society, not going to go back to the dark ages where we read by oil lap, warm ourselves with woodstoves, and cook on the top of the stoves. Cutting our carbon footprints 80 percent over the next 40 years is simply impossible without a massive restructuring of the entire society that few people want to actually do and even fewer people want to pay for. And, unfortunately, a good bulk of the money the government does have is busy being spent blowing people up in foreign lands. That money, real money, should be put into making every house and business energy efficient and on a self-sustaining model instead of trying to get us to all go back to the dark ages.
I personally like the idea of a carbon fees for the same reasons I like tariffs. In fact, I would go so far as to say that I would advocate the replacement of income and sales taxes with carbon, tariff, and Wall Street transaction taxes, in order to place the burden of taxes and government on those things that harm and need more regulation [Author Roy Morrison from Warner has written extensively about these issues and his argument are compelling]. But I wonder if the rebate program will work. It will create an unneeded bureaucracy of more government employees acting like the IRS, keeping tabs on everyone and everything, along with people having to file for the rebates each month. If it is implemented wrongly, it could create a bigger depression than we are already in now. Folks have quickly forgotten that everything was going along OK until gas started edging up in 2007 which took tens of billions of dollars out of people's pocket when they needed it most. At the same time, the Fed raised interest rates, squeezing the debt economy and sending up ARMs and credit card rates higher, draining more money out of the retail economy [which is 70 percent of economic growth in the U.S.]. These two things sent more people into foreclosure and bankruptcy than anything else, and set us on the course we're on now. Most folks I know who were having problems were just fine until the gas prices went up.
The focus of energy conservation and climate change needs to have a slow approach, with more tax rebates and other targeted things, as well as subsidies for solar panels, windmills, etc., dealing with energy.
I have also been an advocate of building more desalination plants around the world to curb the effects of rising sea tides and bringing food production to different nations on a micro level, to cut down on transportation pollution. This needs to be done immediately. At the same time, the individual has to make those changes because it isn't going to be done by governments or business. Lots of us are already doing things without subsidies and handouts. It's all very interesting and complex and this just adds to the mix.
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Cap and Tax is simply a massive tax that will do absolutely nothing to prevent "global climate change". I believe the whole idea is to make the use of fossil fuel based energy so expensive that it will force innovation in new non-fossil fuel technology. Of course, currently there are no inexpensive alternatives to fossil fuels. The technologies we do have require fossil fuel backup. Solar panels only work when the sun is shining and are extremely expensive. Wind only works with steady wind (don't let me get into nuclear....apparently it's off the table completely)
Of course, we've been at peak oil for 60 or more years. Strangeley enough, we are constantly finding new sources of oil and new technologies to get the most out of old sources. Not to mention that most of the east and west coast are off limits for drilling. There are massive natural gas deposits on the east coast and in the gulf, and massive oil deposits on the west coast. We have huge coal deposits in the middle of the country that are also off limits. We have the technology to convert coal into gas and liquid.
Global warming, or global climate change as it is now called, requires religious faith in order to believe in it. The scientific method does not require consensus, that is a political term. We currently can't predict the weather more than a day or two with any accuracy. Somehow I'm expected to believe that we can predict temperature rises 50 years into the future? We also know that the climate has always changed, with or without the internal combustion engine. We know that meat production creates more greenhouse gasses than all the forms of transportation combined in the form of cow flatulance. I don't see any massive movement to stop meat and dairy production. Then we have all kinds of non-human issues, the sun and solar flares, termites, and volcanic eruption. We can't controll these things. I'm not saying we should be polluting and dumping chemicals on the ground, but I like having a car (beat's walking or horses), a house where I hit a switch and I'm warm or cool, and tools to keep my property maintained with minimal labor. Oil makes life easy.
Just a note, I heat my house 100% with wood. We have electric baseboard in two bedrooms, and a small monitor heater (to keep the pipes from freezing if we go away for a week in the winter). We rarely use either source of heat. I scrounge up my firewood all year, I haven't bought any in 10 years. Our heating bill in NH is less than $300 a year, and most of it is gas for my truck and chainsaw to cut and haul wood.
Back in the 1970s, the best scientists warned of a new ice age. Now the supposed best scientists have been warning of the opposite.
The difference between the last scam and this one, is that this time governments and people have spent trillions trying to fight this magical imaginary beast. Livelihoods have been ruined.
But, a lot of people have gotten rich from this. Including Al Gore.
I believe the Copenhagen Treaty Summit should be cancelled! How in God's name can this be considered a legal agreement when a Huge Amount of the basis for the Climate Change Data has been found to be Fraudulently Sabotaged and absolutely Inaccurate? This is signing an agreement Document that has no Legal Foundation of Realistic conditions or elements due to inaccurate and Manipulated Data as described and therefore, anything stated on this Copenhagen Treaty Document should be considered Null and Void! Why create a Pandora's Box, subject to Lawsuits and Misgivings due to total inaccuracy of Scientific measurements? Which now is proving to be the case! This Treaty has no Legal ground to stand on and is and will be a False Document from day one!
Any lawyers want to help out by filing this Copenhagen Treaty be classified as an illegal Treaty!
There are four reasons the UN and IMF, Global Elitist Members Re: Ban Kai Moon ( Who has openly expressed his stong desire for Global Governance ), PM Gordon Brown, Bilderberg Member Henry Kissinger, Senior Bilderberg Member David Rockefeller as well as an unprecedented number of Dictators that run various countries who are members of the United Nations this Copenhagen Treaty that was designed to acquire four goals, the least of them being climate improvment or protection as Lord Moncton has stated!
(1.) To de-industrialize Sovereign Countries ( No Jobs keep you dependant on State ) ( 2.) Take your money and assets - Hence, Fraudulent Carbon Emmissions and Carbon Gases for Carbon Credits and Carbon Taxes! (3.) Take away your property (4.) Take away your Sovereignty and Freedom!
Check out what Government is doing behind your back at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VebOTc-7shU
http://www.gopetition.com/online/32485.html ( For Canadians who do not wish to lose their Sovereignty should PM Stephen Harper sign the Copenhagen Treaty this petitionwill request him not to sign the Treaty also phone your MPs and email PM Harper! )
I believe the Copenhagen Treaty Summit should be cancelled! How in God's name can this be considered a legal agreement when a Huge Amount of the basis for the Climate Change Data has been found to be Fraudulently Sabotaged and absolutely Inaccurate? This is signing an agreement Document that has no Legal Foundation of Realistic conditions or elements due to inaccurate and Manipulated Data as described and therefore, anything stated on this Copenhagen Treaty Document should be considered Null and Void! Why create a Pandora's Box, subject to Lawsuits and Misgivings due to total inaccuracy of Scientific measurements? Which now is proving to be the case! This Treaty has no Legal ground to stand on and is and will be a False Document from day one!
Any lawyers want to help out by filing this Copenhagen Treaty be classified as an illegal Treaty!
There are four reasons the UN and IMF, Global Elitist Members Re: Ban Kai Moon ( Who has openly expressed his stong desire for Global Governance ), PM Gordon Brown, Bilderberg Member Henry Kissinger, Senior Bilderberg Member David Rockefeller as well as an unprecedented number of Dictators that run various countries who are members of the United Nations this Copenhagen Treaty that was designed to acquire four goals, the least of them being climate improvment or protection as Lord Moncton has stated!
(1.) To de-industrialize Sovereign Countries ( No Jobs keep you dependant on State ) ( 2.) Take your money and assets - Hence, Fraudulent Carbon Emmissions and Carbon Gases for Carbon Credits and Carbon Taxes! (3.) Take away your property (4.) Take away your Sovereignty and Freedom!
Check out what Government is doing behind your back at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VebOTc-7shU
http://www.gopetition.com/online/32485.html ( For Canadians who do not wish to lose their Sovereignty should PM Stephen Harper sign the Copenhagen Treaty this petitionwill request him not to sign the Treaty also phone your MPs and email PM Harper! )
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